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 Post subject: Facts check? We don't need no stinking facts checked.
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ABC is witch news.

I'm not reading them, they have been proven to lie too much.

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 Post subject: Re: Facts check? We don't need no stinking facts checked.
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For all intent and purpose it is repealed... with out the mandate, it withers and dies even quicker, (See Newt Gingrich) :mrgreen:

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For all intent and purpose it is repealed... with out the mandate, it withers and dies even quicker, (See Newt Gingrich) :mrgreen:


And expensively. All the rules for insurers remain and McConnell said real repeal is off the radar for the new year. But Trump tells his deluded fans it's repealed.


Sure hope voters remember to blame Obama when they see their new premiums :wave:

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The individual mandate is the heart and soul of Obamacare. It was so important to Justice John Roberts (and the pictures of him doing lewd things with goats that Barry had) that he tangled himself up to justify not overturning it on legitimate Constitutional grounds.

Ahhh Louie, my old friend. Have you heard the old libtard proverb, that free health care is a dish best served cold?

Well, it's very cold without a mandate. :rok:

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btw, the government has been involved in health care, to all of our detriment, since 1965. Forcing people to buy health care or pay a fine was a far far bridge to far. Due to trying personal circumstances for us over the last 2-3 years, the first four months of 2016 found us without coverage. We rolled the dice til the 90 day probabation period in the job department expired. Because of that, and not paying exorbitant prices via Cobra, the benevolent IRS at the direction of Barry's Obamacare sacked us with a fine.

And you're ok with that. You don't argue against it, so I'm running with the you support it angle.

Again, and I know you will not respond or acknowledge this, but what if you had to pay a fine for not owning a personal firearm for your own protection. After all, you live near a pretty rough and murderous area of the country. It's for your own good you know. It's for your safety. Buy a gun, or pay a fine.

How would you deal with that? And don't hand me no crap about health care being intensely personal, therefore it's different. My being forced to pay for mammograms and other female reproductive health procedures which I do not need is quite personal..... and invasive.

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You can call it Fred if you like but it isn’t repealed and insurance companies will extract their pound of flesh from our asses.

Tax cuts giveth.....poorly planned deregulation taketh away.

Just how it’s going to be.

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Hey, the media thinks it's their job to control what the people are thinking


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Louie wrote:
You can call it Fred if you like but it isn’t repealed and insurance companies will extract their pound of flesh from our asses.

Tax cuts giveth.....poorly planned deregulation taketh away.

Just how it’s going to be.


Why? No one is forcing you to pay for it, so don't.... I canceled my secondary insurance because it went up 45 bucks a month, screw it I don't need to give them any money... I went to the VA, they do the same thing for 15 bucks a visit, not a month and all lab work is free.... but you go ahead and rely on odummer care....

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Louie wrote:
You can call it Fred if you like but it isn’t repealed and insurance companies will extract their pound of flesh from our asses.

Tax cuts giveth.....poorly planned deregulation taketh away.

Just how it’s going to be.


And you, at least in the past, made what I took as a serious argument in favor of such an approach. Despite all of the evidence to the contrary, centuries of evidence in addition to the last century in the United States, that it only leads to more and more bureaucracy and more and more corruption. And less liberty and freedom. Much less.

Blame the insurance companies all you want, I have no sympathy for them. But at least be honest here. The Federal government drives everything. Politics and greed and lust for power drive everything in an entrenched bureaucracy, and far to many people - including you - seem to want even more of that.

Talk about your euphemistic means to an end, there you go. We are the purveyors of our own demise.

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